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of course, i expelled him. i'm bill o'reilly. please remember, the spin stops here because we are definitely looking out for you. >> sean: breaking details on the herman cain sexual harassment allegations as the media's attempt to smear the g.o.p. frontrunner kicks into high gear. the president says house republicans are getting in his way of his plan of getting americans back to work. paul ryan is here to set the record straight. the up on movement turns violent as protesters go crazy in oakland. is the left's class warfare rhetoric to blame for stoking these fires? our weekly analysis of the obama mainstream media's bias. we are on the road to 2012.
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and "hannity" starts right here, right now. the mainstream obama mania media is continuing its efforts to bring down the frontrunner for the republican nomination. but herman cain's refusing to give in and is fighting back with a vengeance. i spoke with cain on my radio program this afternoon. listen to this. >> see, the american people are starting to see through this stuff. and they are sick of gutter politics. gutter politics is what causes some businessmen like me not to run for office. this is why we continue to get politicians. but i can assure you of this, sean. this will not deter me. this businessman is not going to be deterred in his drive to basically do what i feel like i am supposed to be doing, which is to win this nomination and win the presidency. >> sean: we will have more with herman cain over the course of this hour. meanwhile, politico is reporting they have obtained more exclusive details about one of the woman's accusations. according to their anonymous
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sources, the employee was in her 30s at the time of the incident and cain, quote, made a suggestion that she felt was overtly sex scbrul she, quote, perceived her job was at risk if she didn't do it. the article states that she issued a complaint with an association board member that night, which triggered high-level discussions about cain's behavior. but one thing is clear, it is not hurting herman cain in the polls. according to the last rasmussen survey, taken today, three days after the story broke, cain remains on top with 26%... >> sean: joining me with all of this, jay sekulo. and telling me what the meaning of the word is is, lonnie davis. >> thanks, sean.
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>> sean: let me just give an explanation, one of the things where herman, i think got in trouble in the beginning was he said, there was no settlement. but he told me today there was not a settlement, there was a severance. he said, that's a distinction. here's what he said. >> it was a severance agreement. severance agreements are usually confidential. it was a severance agreement because she was leaving the association, not some sort of legal settlement because it was found to be baseless, after it was evaluated and her attorney talked to our attorney and all of that kind of stuff. that's why it was a severance agreement. >> sean: what do you think, jay? >> li think, number 1, notice complaint was filed with the equal employment opportunity commission. it was handled with the h.r. office. unfortunately, anybody can make an allegation. an anonymous allegation to a presidential candidate is kind
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of, unfortunately, par for the course right now. but what i think is significant is the fact there have been no formal charges, no lawsuit filed, no complaint with the eeoc and the company made a disirksz whether it's a severance agreement, to work out a sev vans package for this employee who was at that point a disgruntled employee. to turn that into a literal federal case when no case has been filed is a mistake. i think what is happening with the media, they are creating a frenzy, almost like something we haven't seen in a long time. lenny knows this better than anybody. this is exciting tv and radio for a lot of people. but the fact of the matter is, an anonymous source is coming forward. interestingly, her lawyer today said she will not be disclosed. he will be her spokesman. that's like boxing in the wind. i think that's unfair. i think herman cain's best approach is to continue to campaign and not respond to anonymous complaints here. >> lenny, did you a very good
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job defending bill clinton in very difficult times. you wrote a book after that. tell it all, tell the truth, tell it early, tell it yourself. you wrote a pretty good column today. i know i i can't believe those words came out of my mouth. but you offered advice to herman. and i thought you were sincere. >> i feel sympathy for mr. cain. i believe that piling on with the presumption of guilt from anonymous sources is fundamentally unfair. the way to handle that, though, is not to accuse or duck or weave. but if mr. cain genuinelies that he didn't do anything wrong and he holds a press conference and says to everyone, this is what i think i did. i didn't mean to be offensive. i think it was a severance. i didn't admit to anything and answers the who, what, where, when and why and apologizes for offending somebody that he didn't mean to offend, this story would have been over in 24 hours. >> sean: i had herman on for a
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full hour today. and i pushed him on the issue, is there anything that could have been misconstrued, did you flirt with her? say she looked good? here's how that conversation went down. is there anything you can think of that might have been misconstrued you? talked about somebody's height. did you tell a woman she looked good, that dress looks hot -- >> nope. >> sean: anything? any flirtation that you can think of? >> no, i didn't, sean. let me tell you why, being in business, i learned a long time ago, that unless i am really, really comfortable with the fellow employee, i don't pay women compliments unless i know them well enough that they are not going to take at this time wrong way. i know with this particular case, i didn't make those kind of compliments. i didn't say she looked hot or whatever and this sort of thing. why? because when you are in a leadership position, you run the risk of it being misunderstood.
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>> sean: i don't think he can be any more adamant? >> no. but i think lanny and i agree because we are both defense lawyers here. you have to watch, you have to be very specific. and -- look, i think this is an ambush situation. what herman cain needs to do, though, is simply repeat in a very calm, cool and collected manner that he did not do anything inappropriate. and if someone took something as inappropriate, he would never had have meant it that way. he's fighting, he is boxing at the wind. he has an anonymous source that can say anything. what he needs to do, what herman cain needs to do is end this problem right now. because if this keeps going day after day after day -- >> sean: how does he end it? >> there could be 50 anonymous sources. you have to respond quickly and be very definitive. no wiggle room. not only dinot do it, if for some reason somebody misconstrued something, that's
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not my intent and i did nothing that i view as inappropriate. end of story. >> sean: i was trying to close every window here -- any flirtation, comments about looks or height or this or that? no, no, no, no. then i went through the process of every other woman that has now said he might have -- again, anonymous sources, no specifics. i think the term jay's using here is right, he's punching at the wind here. but he keeps saying, no, i don't do that. that's not who i am. what else can he say? >> jay and i are really right on the same wave length here. i am not judging this man having done anything wrong because i don't know. it is anonymous charges. i think he has allowed and should be presumed to be innocent. but to deal as a presidential candidate with this crisis, my advice to him is, mr. cain, call a press conference. bring everybody together, all bets are off on confidentiality. forget that. as a lawyer, i would advise you that you are not held to
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confidentiality -- >> sean: he didn't sign t. i asked him that. >> therefore, he should say, who, what, when, where, all the details and then say, if i offended this woman, i apologize. and this story would be over. >> sean: until she speaks and the media finds somebody else who says it. i said this last night -- >> unfortunately -- >> sean: they asked barack obama once about bill ayers, a guy in the neighborhood. started his career in the guy's house, gave speeches, sat on boards with him. do you think there is a double standard here in the media, lanny? >> i think on this program, he was asked a lot of questions -- >> sean: no, no, no. he didn't have the courage to come on -- >> he got a lot of criticism about bill ayers -- >> sean: no, one question. herman cain is answering questions. >> my advice to anyone whether it's president obama or certainly in the case of
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mr. cain -- >> sean: i agree -- >> well, he answered plenty of questions about ayers -- >> sean: no, he didn't. >> but there is no doubt. there is a double -- there is a double standard. but you know what? that doesn't help herman cain. what helps herman cain is tomorrow morning, call a press conference, say exactly what lanny and i have been talking about. sean, you know what happens, if the fifth or 10th person comes out, it doesn't matter. he should be campaigning. he should make the statement and be back in the campaign, 15 minutes later. nobody's talking about 9-9-9. everybody's talking about this. he needs to make the definitive statement. get it overwith. >> sean: i can't believe they are agreeing. you made history on this program. >> there you go. good to be in america. >> sean: the president says house republicans are getting in the way of his plan to put americans back to work. but congressman paul ryan is here to lay out the g.o.p. jobs plan. and later, violence erupts in an
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>> sean: now, although the allegations facing herman cain may have caused a distraction if recent days, it's important to remember what next year's election is all about, putting the american people back to work. for nearly three years, the president has failed
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dramatically in that department. to date, he replains unwilling twork with republicans on a bipartisan jobs bill. instead, he's campaigning and blaming everything on speaker john boehner and those rascally republicans. >> in the house of representatives, what have you been debating? a commemorative coin for baseball? you had legislation... reaffirming that in god we trust is our motto? that's not putting people back to work. i trust in god. but god wants to see us help ourselves by putting people back to work. >> sean: the president isn't being truthful, would be a gross understatement because in reality, the republican-coaled house has passed at least 15 pieces of job-creating legislation that are stuck in the democratic-controlled september. joining me with more on all of this, paul ryan.
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correct me -- there is 15 bills, cut, cap and balance, dead on arrival. your plan dead on arrival and demonized. i know my friend, connie mack has pushed the penny plan. i don't see the president supporting that one, which would balance the budget in 8 years. but the president says your plan is for dirtier air, dirtier water and you are passing frivolous legislation. your reaction? >> don't forget regulatory reform, tax reform, drilling for oil, gas in our own country, we are stacking up bills in the senate that are going nowhere. this is a 918th day, today that the senate has want passed a budget. it's been 918 days since the senate bothered to try to pass a budget. if you want to get things done and have economic policy, fiscal policy, have you to pass a budget. they haven't done anything for 918 days. we are passing our bills, we are passing our reforms. the president is pushing for another round of stimulus, same
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policies only half as large, those proved not to work, unemployment went up to 10% after stimulus plan passed, not the 8% they promised. and the president's campaigning and impugning the motives of your political adversaries, if you think the president is looking for bipartisan compromise to get job legislation passed, do you think he would be talking like that? going around the country acting like that? it seems to me, sean, he is more interested in conflict than compromise. >> sean: you gave a phenomenal speech last night. you took the president on directly on his campaigning tactics, class warfare, almost every speech, every media opportunity. he said the republican plan for the country is for dirtier air, dirtier water. or joe biden said you pass the president's plan or rapes and murders are going to go up, imply that this republicans want rape and murder to go up. they are not supporting the plan. don't you think that the president is making a
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fundamental mistake here, losing his likeability? >> i do. if i believed all that stuff, i wouldn't vote for myself. i do think he's doing that. when you are getting here, sean, the president's agenda didn't work. i mean, he doesn't have a record to run on, he's obviously not interested in changing his policies. he wants to stay in the same direction. so all he seems to have left is this commitment to division. this idea that you need to talk to people as if they near a class conflict with one another. so the message of hope and change from 2008 has now become one to exploit the emotions of fear and envy and resentment. and it damages america t. makes us weaker, not stronger. what i am saying is sewing social unrest and class envy, that's not what we do. we believe in upward mobility and economic opportunity and prosperity, helping people who haven't had a chance at success, get there, not demonizing the people who have reached success
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in their lives. >> you seem to be one of a few republicans that are willing to really call out the president on the divisive rhetoric that he's using. you have advice for your fellow republicans. and that's -- don't be quiet any longer. start calling the president out. you don't want dirty air, you don't want dirty water. you are not there for the rich. you are there to create opportunities for society. why don't you think more republicans are not following your lead on that? >> i think people get intimidated by the bully pulpit. i think people get intimidated by the colleaguites. i thought he needed to be called on this. look, the presidential candidates are busy competing with each other for the nomination. that's what they do. i just felt the need that somebody had to step up and call him on this because this rhetoric is just as damaging at the policies that they produce because they put people into conflict with one another t.
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agrees with this premise that life is a zero-sum gain. one man's gain comes at another man's loss in america. that's not true. that's not who we are -- that's not the country our veterans fought for. >> sean: are you going to endorse in the primary? have you picked anybody? >> no, i'm not. i can't, actually, because i have agreed to become the chairman of the presidential trust, which is what the republican party can do to prepare for the eventual nominee. so that is the system that basically sets up the general election campaign. i'm the chair of that so i can't endorse any candidates in the primary. >> sean: congressman, thank you for your time. >> you bet, sean. >> sean: coming up, the most outrageous examples of mainstream media bias. we will break down how they are going after herman cain. and more of my with herman cain. dozens arrested in california after the occupy wall street protest turned violent last night in oakland.
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irksz more than 80 people are in police custody after a massive occupy wall street owningland
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protest turned violent last night. they shut down the country's fifth largest port. buildings were vandalized and broken into as destructive rioters set blazes in the street and hurled explosives at police, leaving at least 8 people injured. many who participated in the earlier daytime demonstration are disavowing thealate-night violence. and port officials say that operations have partially resumed, but the damage has been done. so who is responsible? dialing with beckle every day, the president has embraced this movement. nancy pelosi has embraced this. the president has been talking about the rich are not paying their fair share. does he have a role to play in the motivation of this? >> he's definitely encouraging
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them. he wants them to say to blame the 1% and wall street and the republicans. although he's the president of the united states, the commandener chief, he's supposed to lead by example and i don't know why he thinks it's a good idea to associate himself with this lawlessness and disrespect for safety and public property, shutting down the port of oakland. the images are disturbing. how is this a peaceful demonstration, expressing your opinion? this is injurious to people, you can see by the numbers. >> sean: i predicted two things. one, this would backfire for the president and nancy pelosi and company. i think the polls show that the american people are aghast at what they are seeing. number 2, i predicted the violence. >> absolutely. it has devoferled from a protest, legitimate in its inception, fight the banks bailouts and the executive compensation and the crony capitalism. but it has devolved into cascpos violence. i don't think it behooves any
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political party to encourage this behavior, which they are doing more harm than good. hathey are protesting is totally backfiring because they are creating more problems with business owners, laying off workers and business stoppages and residents are impacted. >> look. this is happening in philly, new york, seattle, the ceo of j.p. morgan chase is giving a speech special they are blocking and surrounding the hotel where he is speaking, the sher tan in-- the sheraton in this case. have we gotten to the point where anybody who is successful is a target and maybe at risk of some type of physical harm? do they not have to all hire bodyguards because they are the 1%. >> over 3,000 arrests, assaults, vandalism, picketing in front of people's homes, wouldn't you be afraid if you were one of those banks, the head of the bank, the ceo, the figure head that they associate with their lives being so miserable because you won't give them the redistribution of
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wealth. >> it's so hypocrital. people are losing jobs because they can't get to work because business owners can't turn a profit and they can't pay these people. >> sean: does this open a window into the soul of modern-day liberalism, that america should no longer be an opportunity, we should redistribute the wealth, spread the wealth around as the president said. we have gotten away from the notion of individual responsibility, freedom, you take advantage of freedom. you have a chance to work hard and achieve thing, versus have the government give it to you. has the mentality changed -- >> that is so striking. they want 1% to carry the 99%? it's really shocking and appalling because you look at the distribution the country's going in, if you support that movement, versus a peaceful demonstration and listing things in a civil fashion, how you can support this movement when the type of things they are doing, they are inciting violence -- >> you think it's going to get
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worse -- >> to hand them over a paycheck. >> sean: will this get worse? >> i think it's gotten worse, unless the mayor and the chief of police have shut it down -- and they should in new york, too. >> i think this is unemployment. in october, we are expected to see the unemployment hold at 9.1% with fewer jobs added to the economy. if you are a democrat, the president's saying, this is why you should pass the american jobs bill. but the g.o.p. is saying this is why -- >> sean: i am going to play more of my interview with herman cain today. he answered every question. he adamantly -- he's passionate in his denial. does this go away for him? or does this stick around? >> yeah! look at poll numbers. i am telling you, if you look at recent polls, consistent across the board, they encompass some of the days where the scandal was coming through. he answered the questions, he was forthright with nuthe last interview, absolutely. now you said again today, i
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think he is handling it well by getting out in front and saying it. do i think it's better if it goes away sooner than later, yesanism i think the problems are compounding for herman cain. i see him as a candidate. but i'm changing my mind now. i think that mitt romney walks the walk and talks the talk -- >> sean: you think newt nuthad a dramatic jump. what do you think? >> he's always come off very smart and educated, but he's academia, which is a key criticism of the current president. >> sean: polar opposite of barack obama. >> bob beckel predicted it. i hate to say. >> sean: what is happenings to the five? >> he hypnotized me. >> sean: good to see you. coming up, weil play some more of my interview with herman cain and media mash is coming up. brent boesel will show us how the mainstream left stripe obama
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media is spinning the election story. and our great, great, great american panel, coming up straight ahead.
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>> welcome back to "hannity." time for media mash, our weekly roundup of all the ways the liberal mainstream media tries to spin the news. back with me, the president of the media research center, brent boesel. how are you, sir? >> brother, hannity, how are you doing? >> sean: back to my interview with herman cain from earlier today, i asked him -- talking about media bias, is there a double standard in the way the media has handled what's happening with him, versus the way obamma was covered in 2008? here's what herman cain said. >> why didn't they ask obama about his relationship with bill ayers, more than once? now they want to continue to badger me because i stood next to somebody and jestured her
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height. give me a break. no touching was involved. the door to my office was open. my secretary was sitting right outside. absolutely -- this is why it was found to be baseless. you are absolutely right, sean. they ought to be asking questions about president obama and his relationship with bill ayers. you know the answer to that is because they gave him a pass. >> sean: is he right? >> he is absolutely right. but let's go the next step. let's compare apples to apples. let's compare this case with herman cain to three different cases involving bill clinton. with herman cain, we have nobody on the record, we have no specific allegation of anything that has happened. that's the fact as it stands right now. with bill clinton and with herman cain, in three days, you have 50 network news stories. that's an avalanche of coverage. now let's go to bill clinton. paula jones held a press conference and laid out where
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she said that bill clinton had exposed himself and told her to perform oral sex on him. she had a press conference, she got 16 seconds on one network and that was it. kathleen willie accused the president of trying to grope her, a specific charge, far more serious than herman cain. she got three stories. juanita broderick and accused the president of raping her, with credible evidence. she got three network stories. herman cain without any allegations, without anybody coming forward, 50 network news stories. this is the worst kind of character assassination, sean, i think i have ever seen. they can't stand this man. >> sean: let's go to the very thing you are talking about and show people how the networks cover this. leeghts roll the tape. >> this morning, breaking news, bombshell blast. major allegations against frontrunner herman cain. >> tonight, the republican
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frontrunner on the defensive, herman cain denies accusations of sex ul--ual harassment. >> his dibar series of conflicting statements. herman cain insists he did nothing wrong. >> struggling to move beyond the firestorm, herman cain again denied he harassed anyone. >> sean: pretty amazing, especially in light of what you just sadism it's a death by a thousand cuts. they are repeating the mantra over and over again, that there are allegations of sexual harassment, sexual harassment. but there is no specificity, no one's come forward with any specific charge. we know what sexual harassment means, it could mean any one of a million things. it could be the most serious of allegations and the most trite of allegations. we don't even know if the charges are true or not -- >> sean: let's go to how politico reporters go on tv and
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how they won't say exactly what happened, but they ran with the story. let's roll this. >> what exactly did cain do? >> i think it's a legitimate question. but as wesaid in the story, there were gestures, there were comments, there were certain suggestive overtures. >> what are the allegations, specifically, as you understand them? there is obviously a wide range in sexual harassment. what did he do? >> we have to be careful about that, obviously, because we are sensitive to -- >> of course, the sourcing involved here. and also, what actually happened to these women, we want to be sensitive to that, too. >> did you speak to the women? >> you know, over the last three weeks, we have talked to dozens of folks from across the country. >> sean: did you speak to the woman? did you speak to the women? >> sean, politico has the story. they announced, we have a bombshell story. they are the toast of the town
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on monday morning. everybody puts them on. these are the two most basic questions one could ask. number 1, what did he do wrong? number 2, have you spoken to these people? they couldn't give a straight answer on either question. they should have been thrown out of those studios and the networks should have denounced polittedico and announced we are dropping this ridiculous story. yet, they picked up and did the same thing. >> sean: let's go to nbc news. they declared herman cain clearly equalitiy. clearly. if you believe commentators that get thrills up their leg every time obama speaks. >> at some point, we are going to find out, maybe by the end of the week, what he actually did. he clearly did something wrong. >> i think even if it's really bad, he has to puts the context and say it was an extraordinary night, i had too many drinks, i normally don't act like that. but he has to say it. >> sean: you're right. that way.
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>> sean: clearly guilty. there is no chance -- you know, i didn't know we changed our -- you know, we just assume it's true. you have to prove your innocence now in d.c. >> for once and for all, i wish chris matthews would just shut up. look, in journalism, there is a observing rule that you need two sources before you run a story. in this one, there is not a single source. chris matthews didn't have a single source on what he said and he went on the air on national television on ms-nbc and accused this man of being drunk and clearly doing something wrong. he didn't have a single source to back that up with. >> sean: maybe we should see how many times chris matthews investigated obama's relationship with ayers, during the campaign. >> how about i if i said that chris matthews was clearly drunk last night on his show? i have as much eftsdz to say this -- >> sean: i don't want to get you sued. there will be a big firestorm.
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always good to see you, thank you for being with us. time to check in with greta van susteren. you were sneaky and you went behind my back and you went to brad paisley and tried to set me up. true or false? greta van susteren, you are a prosecutor. yes or no? >> did he do that on the air? did he tape it -- >> sean: it's not going on the air. im not singing on the air. i have already humiliated. >> i told him, ask sean to sing it. i'm sure he will. you wouldn't sing it? >> sean: i'm sorry, you are breaking up. >> oh, yeah. sure. anyway, i'm here in new york, as you may have noticed and shepherd smith, we don't have power in d.c., but we have a great show tonight, including the incredible news about a subpoena going to the white house of capitol hill on the solyndra scandal. we have that and much more, back to you. >> sean: greta is right next door. our great, great, great american
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>>r. >> sean: tonight on our great, great american panel, he's a fox sports radio host, television personality, brine brine is with had hus and kirsten powers is here. a conservative columnist, author of outnumbered, a conservative in network, jedediah bila is here. good to see you. >> thanks. >> sean: all right, pat, herman cain, what do you think? >> well, somebody's been through something like this, not the exact same thing. i think he's been a little late to talk about it. he has to be more forceful about it. he has to come out -- when i had this thing about 7 years ago, what saved me was my own honesty about t. i was in a blackout, i was drunk and made a fool of myself, but i went on television, the next day, as you remember. and was on dr. phil for an hour, explaining everything that happened. you can't just deny anonymous
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allegations. now, when this woman comes out -- is she coming out tomorrow -- when she comes out, it's going to get worse. >> sean: she's not, she is. we don't know. >> here's the only positive thing that kisee coming out of it. hopefully, if the woman is not believable, people will start to realize that this h.r. stuff may have gone too far, when you go out like this -- by the way, if there is one, there is two, if there are two, there are four. you can't end this, sean. -- >> sean: he was on for an hour today -- >> i heard him. he was great. if everything he said today is true, then he should be okay. >> sean: well, he was saying that it was a severance, not a settlement. he was adamant. he never signed a confidentiality agreement. >> they don't work anyway. >> what's troubling about this is the fact that they're anonymous. they should be released to speak, first of all. but the lack of specificity in the initial accusations. we are trying to get more specificity.
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but he made someone feel uncomfortable, what does that mean? people make people feel uncomfortable, that's not illegal. >> sean: you told me i look good tonight. [chuckles] >> you can do this to him, you can do it to anybody. if they are going to report this, there needs to be more specific. you take an accusation that he harassed someone at a dinner and she went home with him -- >> sean: pat said something that's true. i think that people have gotten wise that an accusation doesn't mean it's true. and there is this whole h.r. politically correct, i can't tell you you look nice. i can't say -- >> you can't be gentlemanly. >> you know, what happens too is with wikipedia and the internet and say, i had a nice chat with san san te -- with sean hannity
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and you can google that and your name will come up under sexual harassment. >> these are anonymous sources. there was nothing there. we don't know why -- >> but -- [overlapping dialogue] >> why is all this media coverage for something we don't even know -- >> sean: i agree. we don't know. now, if women come out and -- but it's not corroborated by whatever the agreement is, there is going to be doubt in the air. so maybe republicans, conservatives that want to vote for herman are saying, well, we want to get rid of obama bad but if this is going to come out later, maybe i can't vote for herman. that would be the shame of it. if it's a false accusation. if it's real and herman didn't tell the truth, he would be in trouble. i don't suspect that's the case. >> you spent more time interviewing him. the way he has handled it has been not very well.
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>> sean: agreed. >> so people start to say, why -- >> sean: i thought today in my interview, he got his footing, he answered directly, he doesn't equivocate. he took every issue head-on. >> i tell you what, you may have hosed him -- can i say that word? i guess i just did. >> sean: see, there you go. patted -- pat o'brien gotinous trouble. you were very specific and tough. if the woman comes out tomorrow and has a whole different story, then it becomes a choice. a lot of people are going to side with the women. >> sean: i asked him every question that could be asked because he needed the opportunity to explain it. >> but, sean, what is he saying about the woman who says he sexually propositioned her. >> sean: he says it did not happen. >> if he's tell the the truth, this helps him. if there is something going on that we haven't seen, the women need to put their name on the line.
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>> sean: somebody needs to say it. this is out there. his entire campaign is hanging in the balance. >> they need to be released from the agreements. >> i will make the same point here. one of the reasons that i went back to work and have a life is that i was just completely honest about it. i'm sorry. i messed up. >> sean: one thing, pat, you changed your life. you had a bad period and thank god -- everyone's always loved you as a broadcaster. you came back. and anybody that brings that up now, who care what is they say. >> you can tell me i look nice any time. >> by the way, i think sean looks nice. >> she's friends with my wife. >> sean: more with our great, great, great american panel. the employee of the month is... spark card from capital one. spark cash gives me the most rewards of any small business credit card. it's hard for my crew to keep up with 2% cash back on every purchase, every day. 2% cash back. that's setting the bar pretty high.
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>> sean: we continue with our great american panel. we got a misquote of the bible from jay carney issue our white house spokesman. >> in the president's speech today, he referenced how his action yesterday in god we trust motto and said, i trust in god, but god wants us to help ourselves by putting people back to work. i mean, isn't it a bit much to bring god into the jobs' debate. >> well, i believe the phrase from the bible is the lord helps
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those who help themselves. >> sean: so far, they have brought up republicans want dirtier air, dirtier water and joe biden's saying that rapes and murders are going up. >> but the quote, the lord helps those who help themselves, that's the antithiss -- antithesis of this administration. maybe itt should be the lord helps those horedrkt their money to others. >> here's the problem. about 500 bibles for one thing. >> sean: the standard king james. >> i know. but an eye for an eye was in the hebrew bible. but jesus of nazareth re-tweeted it -- >> sean: re-tweetd it. jesus was tweeting now. [chuckles] >> well, you know, this is the ben franklin quote, i think? >> sean: this is a simple thing. but i think she's right. god helps those who help
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themselves. now, should we take care of our neighbor and love one another as i have loved you, yes,s we should, but that doesn't mean the government should be entitled to take all of pat and your money. >> no. i think this is unfair to pick on jay carn bethis. it's an honest mistake. and whoever tribes caught it. >> you can't quote the bible. >> sean: okay, so we got, we have the administration would not release documents as it relates to $535 billion solyndra, $1.2 billion sunpower. $4 trillion in another company. we have billions of people's money, wasted, down the tubes in the stimulus for green jobs. why would the white house not cooperate? i think they are scared to death of this scandal. >> i think they are now. they have released 75- or 80,000 pages, which says they looked into something.
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80,000 pages means somebody's investigating something. it was a bad investment. they are trying to help -- >> sean: bad investment? >> you want to be -- handcuffed to the wall? >> sean: no, i want -- i don't want the president investing in drilling in brawril and saying we will be your biggest customer. >> the oil companies pay $86 million a day in taxes. take that money and try to find better sources of energy. >> sean: how about the free market figures this out and liberal genius -- they figure it out and make billions and give it to the poor. >> i think the problem is that the administration has confused regular money with mp money. >> sean: that's true. >> there are tons of scandal, solyndra, fast and furious. >> sean: people can relate to this. >> i think they are concerned about the scandal, obviously. but this was a tiny percentage of the overall money. >> sean: trillions? >> no, no, no. of the solyndra. >> sean: billions of dollars. >> look, there were a lot of smart people who i

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